Western Civilisation is built on monogamy - every Jill gets her Jack, every Jack gets his Jill.
Now that many women don't want to get hitched, end of monogamy.
No point telling men to stop watching porn, to Man Up and find a woman - there are ever fewer women to find (except for the sex workers, obv).
Result: ever more porn and prostitution. And if you don't like that, set an example by taking a vow of celibacy and becoming a monk !
Also, a society full of frustrated young men (think of Muslim societies today, or Viking ones in history) are unstable and full of violence in general.
These online "performers" really aren't doing any favours to the rest of womankind. I would suggest stereotyping is a common trait that these actions will impact. From my own experience, even back in the early 80s, my Persian boss asked if I would show his nephew around the city where he was coming to study (having been a student myself). At the end of the tour he assumed I would sleep with him because that's what western girls did. I quickly disabused him of the idea and we went our separate ways. So I hate to think how perceptions are now.
Thank you, and sorry to hear about that. As a man I don't have to suffer the negative consequences of this stereotyping, but I am anxious for the women around me who must.
I'm glad you wrote about this. I also did so, from a slightly different angle, in my latest essay (Common In-decency). My view is that shame has not actually gone away (it never will), but merely shifted in keeping with our sidestep from traditional norms. While we've been encouraged to have no shame about things like sexual heterodoxy, there has been no shortage of shaming in relation to the expression of traditional values and concerns. It would seem that there is one set of morals for one set of people (the enlightened elite) and a completely different, much more stringent, set of morals for everyone else (the ignorant majority). It is this condescending attitude, I think, which underpins the phenomenon of two tier justice in our society.
The UK comedian scene has been dominated by flavours of Left for years.
So many offenders - it would seem they forget they are paid to entertain.
As for morality, I am very encouraged that many are made of sterner stuff - especially our younger adults. Morality starts inside all of us, with endless forgiveness for others.
Some forgiveness may take longer than others... but it is essential.
I disagree, but to entertain your point I'll say that you should be ashamed of yourself for being so obsessed with other people's sex lives. You're a busybody and a pervert. People making their own decisions with their own bodies find you every bit as revolting. You're still not invited. It has nothing to do with you. Shame is the only dopamine you can access. Enjoy it which it lasts.
But most people in most neighbourhoods actually take a virulently prurient, irrational and obnoxious interest in the sex lives of the other people around them. And they do so even if they have a rich and satisfying sex life themselves. And they don't hesitate to condemn their neighbour for engaging in practices they themselves enjoy with suitable discretion. People have always been that way and always will be. Because only a small proportion of sex is about love,a huge proportion of sex is about A TRAP,A TRICK,A WEAPON. The novel Dangerous Liason was written in the 18th century. The malicious use of sex to destroy someone. I thought using this in the case of that Philip Schofield was particularly illustrative. Here is someone who took on board the "new morality",technically did nothing illegal as the law was changed years ago so that 18 year old men (boys?) could express their sexuality and not be driven to suicide,yes that was the reasoning. Oddly in the Schofield case there was almost NO critiscm of the fact he had cheated on his wife and betrayed her. The whole focus was on the fact he had known his younger man while the younger man was a minor. So the spectre of peadophilia was raised. This man thought he was in the modern world of new sensibilities and freedoms and he certainly found out he'd gone up the garden path. The fact that he was carrying on in secret shows that maybe he had an inkling that society wasnt so accepting and permissive as all that.
Totally agree. One if the problems in our society is the lurid ‘sex education’ which encourages children & young people to think all kinds of perversion are ‘normal’ practise for most people. I’ve had children in my extended family come home traumatised from school sex Ed lessons. Sadly, most take it on as normal and degenerate into that lifestyle because ‘everyone else is.’ The only way to protect your kids & teach basic morals is to home school them.
To be honest, it's the men I'm worried about more than the women. It's men that are the horny degenerates, which is why the sex trade is the way round it is - women won't give it out for free, and men are prepared to stump up the cash to get it.
Maybe not end child support, but denying any benefits unless the father is listed on the birth certificate would make changes. It’s not the public’s responsibility to provide for some deadbeat’s baby momma and all her mongrels!
Back in the day women didn't generally have sex before marriage because of the risk of pregnancy - "nice" girls waited for the right man who was often just as sexually naive but occasionally had been off with the "local tart". Then they invented the contraception pill. Women who were young in the 1960s say that it was originally only prescribed for married women with loads of children but, eventually it was just prescribed for women. Not rocket science is it? Once a bloke could have a one-night stand with a formerly "nice" girl she became no better than the local tart but, by the time I was a teenager (1980s) it was almost impossible to refuse a bloke - "you're on the pill aren't you?" So the "liberation" of women just made all women into the local tart in the eyes of all young men. That tart who is famous is merely the end result of taking away the potential pregnancy and marriage problem. Win-win for the male population.
The blokes in the 3rd world see the white porn and think all white women are like that. I read an article some years back about how access to American hardcore porn, thanks to the internet, meant black African girls were being raped by jizzed-up young men who'd been watching it. Well, those young men are now arriving in our world and getting their hands on "the real thing".
They have no shame and we have no shame and consequently the innocent get abused. It's all totally appalling and I see no solution unless the media decide there's no money in it (hahaha!).
As for Al Murray - I always assumed he was a posh bloke taking the piss out of us plebs.
Ironically the only time that chant of "shame on you" is heard nowadays is when leftist mobs are seeking to intimidate one of their usual targets
Those men in the photograph were wearing masks, so presumably there is still shame?
You are indeed a last bastion of sanity, Mr Edward 👏🏻
Not shame perhaps, just fear of being recognised by their wives?
Great and much needed article Frederick, thanks.
Shades of the Fall of the Roman Empire , we've plumbed new depths in this Country and the West in general.
There was a spate of women doing this “mass intercourse” around 20 years ago. I remember one doing it in
Poland, of all places.
Western Civilisation is built on monogamy - every Jill gets her Jack, every Jack gets his Jill.
Now that many women don't want to get hitched, end of monogamy.
No point telling men to stop watching porn, to Man Up and find a woman - there are ever fewer women to find (except for the sex workers, obv).
Result: ever more porn and prostitution. And if you don't like that, set an example by taking a vow of celibacy and becoming a monk !
Also, a society full of frustrated young men (think of Muslim societies today, or Viking ones in history) are unstable and full of violence in general.
These online "performers" really aren't doing any favours to the rest of womankind. I would suggest stereotyping is a common trait that these actions will impact. From my own experience, even back in the early 80s, my Persian boss asked if I would show his nephew around the city where he was coming to study (having been a student myself). At the end of the tour he assumed I would sleep with him because that's what western girls did. I quickly disabused him of the idea and we went our separate ways. So I hate to think how perceptions are now.
Thanks for another thoughtful article.
Thank you, and sorry to hear about that. As a man I don't have to suffer the negative consequences of this stereotyping, but I am anxious for the women around me who must.
Damn right!
Persia has existed as a civilization-state since the seventh century BC and is one of the cradles of civilization.
Yes, for instance you should feel great shame at having written this utter shite.
Modesty is an attractive distinguishing characteristic.
The spotlight should be on people who make a positive contribution to a civilised society.
I'm glad you wrote about this. I also did so, from a slightly different angle, in my latest essay (Common In-decency). My view is that shame has not actually gone away (it never will), but merely shifted in keeping with our sidestep from traditional norms. While we've been encouraged to have no shame about things like sexual heterodoxy, there has been no shortage of shaming in relation to the expression of traditional values and concerns. It would seem that there is one set of morals for one set of people (the enlightened elite) and a completely different, much more stringent, set of morals for everyone else (the ignorant majority). It is this condescending attitude, I think, which underpins the phenomenon of two tier justice in our society.
When morality and discipline go out of the window, society disintegrates, we are just like the fall of the Roman Empire.
The UK comedian scene has been dominated by flavours of Left for years.
So many offenders - it would seem they forget they are paid to entertain.
As for morality, I am very encouraged that many are made of sterner stuff - especially our younger adults. Morality starts inside all of us, with endless forgiveness for others.
Some forgiveness may take longer than others... but it is essential.
I disagree, but to entertain your point I'll say that you should be ashamed of yourself for being so obsessed with other people's sex lives. You're a busybody and a pervert. People making their own decisions with their own bodies find you every bit as revolting. You're still not invited. It has nothing to do with you. Shame is the only dopamine you can access. Enjoy it which it lasts.
Please stop projecting, coomer.
But most people in most neighbourhoods actually take a virulently prurient, irrational and obnoxious interest in the sex lives of the other people around them. And they do so even if they have a rich and satisfying sex life themselves. And they don't hesitate to condemn their neighbour for engaging in practices they themselves enjoy with suitable discretion. People have always been that way and always will be. Because only a small proportion of sex is about love,a huge proportion of sex is about A TRAP,A TRICK,A WEAPON. The novel Dangerous Liason was written in the 18th century. The malicious use of sex to destroy someone. I thought using this in the case of that Philip Schofield was particularly illustrative. Here is someone who took on board the "new morality",technically did nothing illegal as the law was changed years ago so that 18 year old men (boys?) could express their sexuality and not be driven to suicide,yes that was the reasoning. Oddly in the Schofield case there was almost NO critiscm of the fact he had cheated on his wife and betrayed her. The whole focus was on the fact he had known his younger man while the younger man was a minor. So the spectre of peadophilia was raised. This man thought he was in the modern world of new sensibilities and freedoms and he certainly found out he'd gone up the garden path. The fact that he was carrying on in secret shows that maybe he had an inkling that society wasnt so accepting and permissive as all that.
Totally agree. One if the problems in our society is the lurid ‘sex education’ which encourages children & young people to think all kinds of perversion are ‘normal’ practise for most people. I’ve had children in my extended family come home traumatised from school sex Ed lessons. Sadly, most take it on as normal and degenerate into that lifestyle because ‘everyone else is.’ The only way to protect your kids & teach basic morals is to home school them.
Yes, degeneracy is normalised. You don't need to scrape very deep to find out that many people around you are engaging in pretty diabolical deeds!
Shame & morality
Both have been lost in the uK
My own thoughts are to make abortion illegal (with exceptions) and end child support.
That'll get women thinking.
To be honest, it's the men I'm worried about more than the women. It's men that are the horny degenerates, which is why the sex trade is the way round it is - women won't give it out for free, and men are prepared to stump up the cash to get it.
Or if a woman wants a man to pay child support she has to get him to sign a contract before sex.
No signature no child support.
If a woman has two abortions her second comes with a mandatory hysterectomy.
Maybe not end child support, but denying any benefits unless the father is listed on the birth certificate would make changes. It’s not the public’s responsibility to provide for some deadbeat’s baby momma and all her mongrels!
Back in the day women didn't generally have sex before marriage because of the risk of pregnancy - "nice" girls waited for the right man who was often just as sexually naive but occasionally had been off with the "local tart". Then they invented the contraception pill. Women who were young in the 1960s say that it was originally only prescribed for married women with loads of children but, eventually it was just prescribed for women. Not rocket science is it? Once a bloke could have a one-night stand with a formerly "nice" girl she became no better than the local tart but, by the time I was a teenager (1980s) it was almost impossible to refuse a bloke - "you're on the pill aren't you?" So the "liberation" of women just made all women into the local tart in the eyes of all young men. That tart who is famous is merely the end result of taking away the potential pregnancy and marriage problem. Win-win for the male population.
The blokes in the 3rd world see the white porn and think all white women are like that. I read an article some years back about how access to American hardcore porn, thanks to the internet, meant black African girls were being raped by jizzed-up young men who'd been watching it. Well, those young men are now arriving in our world and getting their hands on "the real thing".
They have no shame and we have no shame and consequently the innocent get abused. It's all totally appalling and I see no solution unless the media decide there's no money in it (hahaha!).
As for Al Murray - I always assumed he was a posh bloke taking the piss out of us plebs.