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Vivian Evans's avatar

Well, nay: excellently said! Just an aside: how many masked-up people do you see in that last photo? How many people waving St George's flag do you see? According to Starmer, they're all 'EDL thugs', so they're wrong to protest. Compare and contrast to the 'From the River etc ..." recent protests ...

Me, I just ask why the Irish can stand up to this - not reported in our MSM - but we cannot?

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Andrew Marsh's avatar

There is an excellent report on TCW as well as independent Dublin press about the Eire situation. Rest assured Eire did plenty of gas lighting with respect to the people of a relatively poor area with little prospect of work. Quite simply the residents do not fit the liberal elite unless they have to vote. Oh. Wait. The liberal elite fix that as well!

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Vivian Evans's avatar

I got some of my info from that TCW report - not our Westminster MSM, is it! As for yon liberal elite fixing things: well, they'll try, that's fersure. The times, they have become even more 'interesting' ...

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Andrew Marsh's avatar

Just read your article about Charmer-Starmer KC's chat from No10. I have posted on the cabinet office site I do not appreciate a Prime Minister smearing anyone when he should work for all. I appreciate all comms to HM Gov go to spam folders.....

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Patrick  Clarke's avatar

Starmer probably can't believe his luck. He will use the Southport and Westminster disorder as his own January 6th moment, the opportunity to railroad through all sorts of authoritarianism, up to and including mandatory digital IDs, cheered on by a compliant media. You know, the same types who called out for longer, harder lockdowns, vaccine passports, the banishment from society of the "unvaxxed" or worse. Just like Starmer did himself, revealing him clearly for the tyrant he is and that too many failed to notice during the recently concluded General Election which Sunak handed to him on a plate.

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Frederick Edward's avatar

Being rapid lefties they never let a crisis go to waste. Unlike the Tories, this lot are intent on implementing their ideological agenda. Not that the Tories had/have an ideology, of course.

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Patrick  Clarke's avatar

It really is seriously time for us to move elsewhere while we still can

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Patrick  Clarke's avatar

Indeed. Starmer comes across to me far more as the Governor of an occupying power rather than any sort of Prime Minister. In many respects that is exactly what he is

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Stuffysays's avatar

Yeah, but Labour didn't "win a stonking majority" did they? The FPTP system gave them a load of seats in parliament but the vast majority of the voting public didn't vote for them. Even the people of Holborn and St Pancras mostly didn't vote for Sir Keir himself. Just like Sadiq Khan didn't get the majority of Londoners voting for him. Low turnouts and then low winnings doesn't show great faith in the political system.

However, I agree totally with your views. Irritated today to hear Yvette Cooper witter on about those far-right yobs rioting and beating up the police - no context and no interest in asking why and no awareness that she was referring to the public, the bloke who is sick of seeing how white girls are raped and murdered by immigrant boys and men and yet are not portrayed as victims. The public, the average bloke with a wife and a daughter who works hard and does his best, is now a far-right fascist threat to society. According to the elite, the authorities, the media. Well, here's hoping they keep on protesting, having finally appeared to have woken up.

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Frederick Edward's avatar

A stonking majority in terms of seats in the HoC. Agreed with the fact that it is a supermajority based on apathy, though.

I share your sympathy with those protesting. But still it feels like pissing in the wind unless it becomes a far more mainstream (and less destructive) trend.

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Alan Jurek's avatar

Nicely understated.

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Frederick Edward's avatar

Thanks for alerting me to the error I made - I changed it quickly after seeing your comment. A slip of the fingers, as it were.

The descent is picking up speed and I agree with the analysis about Milipede's madness. It will be through such insane ventures that our situation is brought to a head; once there is an actual choice to be made between 'heating and eating' - and it's not just a political catchphrase - then the rage will be so incandescent that not even a few rainbow-bedecked coppers will be able to stop it.

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Andrew Marsh's avatar

Layzee Labour have already lost control. This will be a 1 year Parliament, if that.

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Frederick Edward's avatar

I don't share your confidence.

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GregB's avatar

Why? How are we going to remove them? Our little bit of power only exists for 1 day in 1,826 unless we rebel! Rebellions rarely end well.

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Andrew Marsh's avatar

I share the concern but think the rate at which Labour has ruined their own position will make the government irrelevant. One can see from the reaction to unrest Uniparty is worried. A rebellion is not really in anyone's interest - but a political correction is.

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GregB's avatar

I see that parliament resumes, briefly, on Monday 2nd September. Those few days, before they all rush off to their annual party/jamboree (conference season), will be interesting. However, I cannot imagine what 'correction' might take place within the Uniparty.

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Andrew Marsh's avatar

The correction is inevitable. One can protest as much as possible, but in the end economics and the needs of the public will take priority - with or without labour.

This will not happen next month, or indeed for a few months. Given the lack of Labour leadership, and posturing to represent only selected groups, the administration has to change course.

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